President Donald Trump won’t rule out a second government shutdown on February 15 if negotiators don’t offer a border security plan that includes funding for his border wall.
‘We’re going to have to see what happens on February 15th,’ the president told CBS’ “Face the Nation” in an interview that aired Sunday morning, adding ‘I don’t take anything off the table.’
He also didn’t rule out declaring a national emergency in order to build his barrier along the U.S.-Mexico border.
President Trump would not rule out a second government shutdown on February 15 if negotiators don’t offer a funding for his border wall
Speaker Pelosi said there will be no funding for the wall in border security legislation
President Trump took to twitter to argue ‘if there is no wall, there is no security’
‘I don’t like to take things off the table. It’s that alternative. It’s national emergency, it’s other things and you know there have been plenty national emergencies called,’ he argued.
The president also took to Twitter on Sunday to argue ‘if there is no wall, there is no security.’
‘With Caravans marching through Mexico and toward our Country, Republicans must be prepared to do whatever is necessary for STRONG Border Security. Dems do nothing. If there is no Wall, there is no Security. Human Trafficking, Drugs and Criminals of all dimensions – KEEP OUT!,’ he wrote.
A group of Republican and Democratic lawmakers are working on a plan to fund border security beyond February 15, which is the day funding for several government agencies runs out. The Democrats’ opening offer had zero money for Trump’s wall.
But the president continues to make the case for his border barrier and said anyone who doesn’t think so is ‘just playing games.
‘This really is an invasion of our country by human traffickers. These are people that are horrible people bringing in women mostly, but bringing in women and children into our country. Human trafficking. And we’re going to have a strong border. And the only way you have a strong border is you need a physical barrier. You need a wall. And anybody that says you don’t, they’re just playing games,’ he said.
He also slammed Speaker Nancy Pelosi as doing a ‘terrible disservice to the people’ by not funding his wall. He said she was too ‘rigid’ in their negotiations and ‘very bad’ for the country.
The shutdown began when Trump demanded $5.7 billion for his border wall and Democrats refused to offer more than $1.3 billion for border security. Pelosi held firm on her stance for no border wall funding and, after the longest shutdown in American history, Trump caved and reopened the government for three weeks while negotiations on border security funding continue.
‘I think that she was very rigid – which I would expect – but I think she is very bad for our country,’ he told CBS News of the speaker. ‘She knows that you need a barrier. She knows that we need border security. She wanted to win a political point. I happen to think it’s very bad politics because basically she wants open borders.’
He went on to say she is ‘doing a terrible disservice to our country. And on the 15th we have now set the table beautifully because everybody knows what’s going on because of the shutdown. People that didn’t have any idea- they didn’t have a clue as to what was happening, they now know exactly what’s happening.’
He also declared the White House would ‘win’ in the current round of negotiations.
‘She can keep playing her games,’ Trump said of Pelosi, ‘but we will win. Because we have a much better issue. On a political basis, what she’s doing is – I actually think it’s bad politics, but much more importantly it’s very bad for our country.’
Pelosi’s office shot back.
‘President Trump’s recklessness didn’t make us safer, it undermined our security with 35 days of border patrol agents, DEA agents, FBI agents and Homeland Security personnel missing paychecks. Democrats have put forward strong, smart and effective border security solutions in the bipartisan conference committee, while the President still refuses to take a second shutdown off the table,’ her spokesperson Drew Hammill said in a statement.
Pelosi made it clear Thursday that there would be no money for Trump’s border wall in the legislation lawmakers are working on to avoid another government shutdown but she did leave the door open to ‘enhanced fencing.’
‘There’s not going to be any wall money in the legislation,’ she told reporters at the Capitol.
But she did say she would accept ‘normandy fencing’ – crisscrossed posts, lined with barbed wire or mesh – as it already exists in places on the border.
‘If the president wants to call it a wall he can call it a wall,’ she said.
Speaker Pelosi made it clear there would be no money for President Trump’s border wall in the legislation being working on to avoid another shutdown
President Trump wants a border wall funded in the next round of government funding
President Trump fired back at Pelosi: ‘If there’s no wall it doesn’t work. She’s just playing games’
‘Is there a place when enhanced fencing, Normandy fencing would work, let them have that discussion,’ she said of the bipartisan, bicameral committee working on a border security compromise plan.
Trump fired back at her when he spoke to reporters at the White House later Thursday.
‘If there’s no wall it doesn’t work. She’s just playing games,’ he said of the speaker.
He then argued caravans of immigrants were in route from Central America to the U.S.-Mexico border and Pelosi would beg for a barrier.
‘Nancy Pelosi will be begging for a wall,’ he said.
Trump argued the shutdown set the stage for this round of negotiations on border security
‘I think by having the shutdown we set the table for what we have now,’ he said, adding ‘I don’t think they’re going to make a deal.’
He again vowed that if there’s no money for his wall, there’s no deal.
‘If they don’t have a wall I don’t even want to waste my time reading what they have,’ he said of the bipartisan committee working on a solution for border security.
And he said he’d make a decision on declaring a national emergency – thus getting money for his wall that way – after the February 15 deadline for the negotiators.
‘I’m waiting for February 15,’ he said.
And Vice President Mike Pence said the administration would ‘continue to fight’ for a wall.
‘What the president is calling on Congress to do today is an all of the above strategy. But, all of the above includes a wall. All of the above includes a physical barrier with high density areas law enforcement communities say it is most needed. We’re going to continue to fight for just that,’ he said at a DEA event on Thursday.
Meanwhile, the speaker was on a high note Thursday morning in her first weekly press conference since the government reopened. She entered the roomful of reporters with the comment: ‘Winning is good.’
‘Thank God the government is open again,’ she added.
Trump caved to the speaker’s demands last week and reopened the government for three weeks with legislation that did not contain any of the $5.7 billion he wants for his border wall.
The legislation, however, created a bipartisan committee of 17 representatives and senators to work out a compromise on border security before government funding runs out on Feb. 15.
Their first meeting was Wednesday and Democrats indicated they were open to upping their original $1.3 billion offer on border security – although they want the funds used on technology enhancements to help border agents to do their jobs.
Trump, meanwhile, on Thursday dropped his offer to Democrats to call his border structure a fence or a physical barrier.
A’ WALL is a WALL’ he noted in an early morning tweet and urged both sides to ‘stop playing political games’ by calling it something else.
He declared: ‘The Wall is getting done one way or the other!’ Repeating himself in another, Trump claimed, ‘Construction has started and will not stop until it is finished.’
Trump continued to rage for more than an hour, telling Republicans on a bipartisan panel tasked with coming to a border security arrangement to stop ‘wasting their time’ on the negotiations with his political opponents.
‘I’ve got you covered. Wall is already being built, I don’t expect much help!’ he proclaimed.
President Trump inspects border wall prototypes in San Diego in March 2018
President Donald Trump has dropped his offer to Democrats to call his border structure a fence or a physical barrier to satisfy their demands that he forgo his plans to build a wall from sea to shining sea along the southern border
President Trump went on a tangent about his border ‘wall’ in Thursday morning tweets
He noted that a ‘ WALL is a WALL’ and urged both sides to stop ‘playing political games’ in negotiations
He claimed the border crisis is worse than Afghanistan, and he brought up Mexico’s murder rate to prove it
Trump signaled that he was getting his information from Fox News, which he typically spends his morning watching
As the first day of talks among a bipartisan committee of negotiators did not produce the result he wanted, however, Trump raged on Twitter about the wall
Just this month, President Trump said Democrats could call his wall whatever want — even ‘peaches’ if they prefer — so long as he gets his money.
He was feeling less generous by Thursday morning. ‘Lets just call them WALLS from now on and stop playing political games! A WALL is a WALL!’ he said.
As the first day of talks among a bipartisan committee of negotiators did not produce the result he wanted, however, Trump raged on Twitter about the wall and the Mexican murder rate while watching his favorite morning program.
‘Large sections of WALL have already been built with much more either under construction or ready to go. Renovation of existing WALLS is also a very big part of the plan to finally, after many decades, properly Secure Our Border. The Wall is getting done one way or the other!’ he tweeted.
Laying the brickwork for his case that the nation is facing an emergency at the border, Trump also claimed that Mexico’s skyrocketing murder rate is contributing to illegal immigration in America and the death toll is higher that of Afghanistan.
‘Very sadly, Murder cases in Mexico in 2018 rose 33% from 2017, to 33,341. This is a big contributor to the Humanitarian Crises taking place on our Southern Border and then spreading throughout our Country. Worse even than Afghanistan. Much caused by DRUGS. Wall is being built!’ he said.
And just so it was clear what television show he was watching he tagged ‘Fox & Friends’ in a follow-up.
‘With Murders up 33% in Mexico, a record, why wouldn’t any sane person want to build a Wall! Construction has started and will not stop until it is finished,’ he asserted.
He correctly asserted that the country recorded 33,341 homicides in 2018, but incorrectly stated the percent increase over the year before. While it was indeed the highest rate of homicides on record, Mexico recorded a 15 percent increase in murders and not the 33 percent that Trump claimed in his social media rant.
Trump was reacting to reports out of a bipartisan meeting on Capitol Hill that Democrats remain opposed to giving him a substantial amount of money for a border wall.
Democrats returned Wednesday to their claim that there is no money for the barrier in their opening offer to avert another government shutdown despite his warning that morning that are ‘wasting their time’ if they won’t fund his barrier.
‘If you’re asking if there’s any money for a border wall there is none,’ Democratic Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard told reporters after the first meeting of House and Senate negotiators ended.
Trump said Thursday morning that he’d build the wall, anyway.
‘Republicans on the Homeland Security Committee are wasting their time,’ he stated. ‘Democrats, despite all of the evidence, proof and Caravans coming, are not going to give money to build the DESPERATELY needed WALL. I’ve got you covered. Wall is already being built, I don’t expect much help!’
Chairwoman Nita Lowey (center) and Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (right) made it clear there was no funding for President Trump’s border wall in their opening offer
The 17-member bipartisan, bicameral panel held their first meeting to find a border security compromise
On Wednesday the 17-member bipartisan, bicameral panel held their first meeting to find a border security compromise under dueling threats: 1) a ticking clock that only gives them until Feb. 15 to come up with a plan that the president will sign to avoid another shutdown; and 2) increasingly aggressive warnings from Trump that he will tap into ‘alternative’ sources of revenue to build his wall if he fells that he must.
House Appropriations Chair Nita Lowey appeared to brush aside Trump’s threats.
‘I raised three children and now I have eight grand children and I think it’s best way of dealing with them is with facts and figures instead of threats,’ she said when asked about the president’s demand.
Lowey did offer a ray of hope when it comes to compromise.
‘Everything is on the table,’ she said. ‘Today was a starting point.’
She also said the lawmakers charged with coming up with a hail mary pass over the next 16 days may take a trip to the border as part of their work.
‘We’ve been talking about maybe taking a trip to the border but there is not much time,’ she said.
And while Democrats wouldn’t commit to a wall, Lowey conceded more money would likely end up on the table than the $1.3 billion Democrats originally offered for border security.
‘We will expand on the $1.6 billion for border security-related programs that House Democrats have already passed in the last few weeks,’ she said.
But there was little enthusiasm for the $5.7 billion Trump was demanded for his border wall. Democrats argued money was limited and could be put to other uses.
‘Within the limited funding available in the bill, we will be fighting for balanced investments across the Department’s mission areas. And we will be pushing for a strong, but smart, border security posture, one that does not rely on costly physical barriers,’ Roybal-Allard said.
It was that showdown over $1.6 billion versus $5.7 billion that led to the shutdown. If the panel can’t come up with a compromise Trump will sign by Feb. 15, funding is likely to lapse again for the departments of Transportation, Agriculture, Homeland Security, Treasury, Commerce, Housing and Urban Development, Justice, State and Interior, as well as the IRS, National Science Foundation, FDA and EPA.
Republicans on the panel showed their support Wednesday for some type of border barrier to be used strategically.
Few lawmakers used the word ‘wall’ but talked about building barriers where it made strategic sense.
‘All sides seem to agree that border security is important. That is a good start, but it cannot end there,’ said Republican Sen. Richard Shelby in his opening remarks.
‘Smart technology alone does not actually stop anyone from crossing into the U.S. illegally,’ he noted as part of his argument for a border barrier. ‘Our border patrol tells us that they need physical barriers to help them do their job. Not from coast to coast, but strategically placed where traffic is highest.’
He argued strategic barriers are part of a ‘comprehensive solution.’
Republican Congressman Chuck Fleischmann did utter the word ‘wall’ but said he wanted one ‘where barriers work’ on the border.
The GOP pushed for lawmakers to focus on where they agree and argued portions of a border barrier are something both parties could back.
‘People, technology and barrier and we’ve all voted for all three,’ said Republican Sen. John Hoeven.
But Democratic Rep. Henry Cuellar, whose district sits on the Texas-U.S. border, dismissed the idea a wall is effective.
‘Give me $100. I’ll buy you a ladder and we’ll take care of that wall quickly,’ he said.
Republican Sen. Richard Shelby suggested strategically placed border barriers would be a good compromise
President Donald Trump hamstrung Capitol Hill negotiators as they began the first round of talks with a bipartisan panel of lawmakers to fund the government through the end of the fiscal year
Trump said that the legislators ‘are wasting their time’ if their solution doesn’t include a border wall. He allowed that they could refer to it alternatively as a physical barrier
But, before lawmakers met Wednesday afternoon, Trump put his demand on the table.
‘If the committee of Republicans and Democrats now meeting on Border Security is not discussing or contemplating a Wall or Physical Barrier, they are Wasting their time!,’ he tweeted Wednesday morning.
The 35-day shutdown, the longest in American history, ended Friday after Trump signed a bill to reopen the government for three weeks, backing down from his demand that Congress give him $5.7 billion for his border wall before federal agencies get back to work.
Polls show people chiefly blame Trump and Republicans for the shutdown.
Part of the agreement was the bipartisan panel of House and Senate lawmakers tasked with coming up with a border security plan both parties could support and Trump would sign.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who previously said there was no chance of Trump getting his wall, punted the issue to negotiators.
‘I think a conference committee can reach a good result left to its own devices without interference from anybody else. I have confidence in the appropriators,’ she told CNN Wednesday morning.
And Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who pressured Trump last week to end the shutdown, warned the president against triggering another one or declaring a national emergency in order to get his wall.
When asked to describe a border security agreement he’d support, McConnell said: ‘I’m for whatever works that would prevent the level of dysfunction we’ve seen on full display here the last month and also doesn’t bring about a view on the president’s part that he needs to declare a national emergency.’
Before negotiators met on Wednesday, Shelby was asked what would happen if the lawmakers came up with a plan that Trump would refuse to sign and a veto could be overridden.
‘That’d be hard to do. Nothing is impossible,’ he said.
White House press secretary Sarah Sanders warned Democrats on Monday afternoon that they will ‘get virtually nothing’ if they put Trump in the position of having to solve the border wall fight by declaring a national emergency.
‘If they don’t come back with a deal, that means Democrats get virtually nothing. That will make the president, and force him, to have to take executive action that does not give Democrats the things that they want,’ Sanders said in her first press briefing of 2019.
She said of an immigration reform framework and spending deal, ‘This is a perfect time and the table has been perfectly set by the president in order for a good deal to come together where everybody gets a little something they’re looking for.’
Meanwhile, acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said on Sunday the president is willing to shut down the government again in three weeks in order to secure the border.
Negotiators have until Feb. 15 to come up with a compromise on border security
‘Yeah I think he actually is. Keep in mind he’s willing to do whatever it takes to secure the border. He does take this very seriously,’ Mulvaney said Sunday on CBS’ ‘Face the Nation.’
Mulvaney refused to answer whether or not Trump would take less than the $5.7 billion he demanded as his original price to reopen the government – the amount he needs to build a border wall.
‘This is not something where the president’s married to a number, he’s married to border security,’ he said on ‘Fox News Sunday.’
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